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Comentario interesante en hilo sobre MANPADs


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Os dejo un comentario de Eddie en el foro de ED al hilo de un topic sobre los MANPADs

 

Originally Posted by SUBS17 viewpost.gif
so do not be surprised if in some cases something like a maverick was used against a soldier in a CAS situation particularly laser guided.music_whistling.gif

However, a small detail that you're missing. We don't use Javelin or other similar weapons to engage "soldiers" per se. They are used to engage enemy "positions", that is buildings and/or terrain features being used as firing points. Might seem like semantics, but it is a subtle and important distinction.

You could certainly employ E/G/K model Mavericks in that manner, but you're still not going to be flying around trying to pick off MANPADS operators, even if by sheer luck you could spot them. You're going to engage your fragged target and get the hell out of dodge, or you're going to abort and go home. In an on-call CAS TIC situation, you're just going to have to suck it up even more, in that situation you certainly don't have the time to be picking off any air defences, the guys on the ground will not thank you for that while they're dying.

This is why there are TTPs air to ground operations that make constant use of suppression/cover/shooter roles, and why aircraft always operate in flights of two or more. Again, this is one of those "solutions to problems that don't actually exist" situations that stem from simmers without knowledge/understanding of real world TTPs trying to apply their experience of a game to real world operations, I'm afraid it just doesn't work that way around. Remember in reality time on target is normally measured in seconds or a few minutes, not tens of minutes or hours.

 

 

Si quereis leer la entrada completa, http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=143162&page=3

 

Tambien, relacionado con ello hacen referencia a otro comentario de como funciona el Force Correlate

 

 

 

Originally Posted by ttaylor0024 viewpost.gif
A point in the center. What's the difference between a non-moving SAM site and a building besides size? Obviously I have never used/studied these missiles outside of the sim so I don't know their capabilities in and out
No Correlate track is tracking the entire image and giving guidance commands to ensure the image expands out equally in all directions, it is the weapon's terminal guidance phase with is used when the weapon gets too close to the target for a centroid track to be held. All force correlate does is quite literally force the use of correlate track at launch.

Depending on launch distance the Maverick has CEP of over 100 metres when employed in force correlate (1 mil in fact, you can do the angle maths to calculate the distance based on a given range). In short, it will not hit a small point target, and it flat out should not work the way most DCS players employ it.

 

El hilo completo http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2315372#post2315372

 

Un saludo!

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Muy interesante... es que es asi, cuando hay una situacion de vida o muerte con tropas en contacto bajas del tiron a ayudar en lo que se pueda, no como algunas veces pasa aqui que nos tiramos mas de 10 minutos para ir a por el tasking.

 

Y de ahi la importancia de tener un buen wingman con los ojos en el cogote del lider y con la habilidad suficiente para neutralizar amenazas sobre la marcha.

 

Tendria que empezar a montar las misiones un poco mas realistas... a ver si aprendemos a golpe de igla :D

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Muy interesante... es que es asi, cuando hay una situacion de vida o muerte con tropas en contacto bajas del tiron a ayudar en lo que se pueda, no como algunas veces pasa aqui que nos tiramos mas de 10 minutos para ir a por el tasking.

 

Y de ahi la importancia de tener un buen wingman con los ojos en el cogote del lider y con la habilidad suficiente para neutralizar amenazas sobre la marcha.

 

Tendria que empezar a montar las misiones un poco mas realistas... a ver si aprendemos a golpe de igla :D

Si ya.. Luego se ponen un par de iglas nocturnos y putean al creador de la misión.....

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