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Parece que no tardaran mucho Joseti en sacar el SP, una semana o dos :aplauso-6:

 

Joseti, es normal que tarde tanto en recoger el tren de aterrizaje el Airbus?

 

Mono? jejeje sueño con cabinas azules :icon_mrgreen:

Me encanta la iluminacion nocturna de esta cabina!

 

Gracias por la info Joseti!

 

Saludos.

 

Disculpa Red, he tenido problemas con el ordenador.

 

Para mi el tiempo de retraer y extender el tren me parece correcto no se tampoco he mirado vídeos de youtube con el cronometro en la mano y lo he comparado con el AXE jeje.

 

El SP1 parece estar cerca pero ya veremos cuanto tarda finalmente....

 

Cambiando de tema el A330 de Blackbox el prologue ya esta disponible únicamente para FSX como viene siendo habitual.

 

http://www.blackboxsimulation.com/index.php/products/fsx/a330xtreme/

 

Un saludo.

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Alucina... estoy a la espera que me envíen el Airbus y de repente en FSX han dejado de funcionar los joysticks!!! :game:

 

Me han desaparecido opciones del menú de navegación (entre otras las opciones del FSUIPC) así que he tratado de volver a utilizar la configuración por defecto de los joysticks de FS y nada. Yo alucino con Windows...

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Instalado update. Es un installer nuevo por lo tanto hice una instalacion nueva borrando la anterior tanto el pack de sonido, el AEX, asi como el configurador. No he vuelto a instalar el pack de sonido RAAS ya que no me gusta. El nuevo installador viene con un flight planner exclusivo pero no oficial. Un buen detalle aun que no he probado el planner pero seguro que es mejor que el de FSX.

 

Saludos

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Voy a instalar de 0 el Extended (Box Edition). Dices que te borra todo lo anterior y hace una instalacion nueva... no es mejor entonces que instale el Update? con este Update me tengo que olvidar de los Hot Fix, no?

Es un instalador totalmente nuevo, pero tambien puedes sobrescribir la anterior version. En tu caso como vienes de box, quizas sea mejor sobrescribir. Igualmente sera una instalacion nueva. Yo desintale la anterior y hice una instalacion nueva con el nuevo/SP instalador. Es el unico que te puedes bajar ahora si lo compras igualmente.

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¿Y como funcionan los updates para el Extended?¿de donde me puedo descargar el SP1?

 

Gracias

 

Tienes que bajarte la instalacion nueva y instalarla. Dicen que estan trabajando en un pequeño update para los que teneis el box edition. Por ahora solo puedes instalarte la version 1.10 y para eso debes bajartela.

 

Airbus X A320/A321 (formally Airbus X Extended) version 1.10 has just been released. As this is a serious change we decided to only release a full new build, it’s best to de-install the previous version before installing. Boxed customers also can download this new complete version right now. We will see if we can make a smaller update for them (after all it is not nice to buy a boxed product and then having to download a complete version) but we have seen a lot of problems with that, all avoided by a clean full install.

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Mas noticias frescas del A320 de Fslabs,

 

We were interviewed by a well known Russian flight simulator news site recently. Here's what our team had to say:


Lefteris Kalamaras: Thank you for the opportunity to answer some questions regarding our upcoming Flight Sim Labs A320-X aircraft. I felt this was a good time to let our developers voice their own thoughts regarding their hard work, so I selected Andrew Wilson and Philippe Gleize to respond with feedback on your questions. Andrew is responsible for systems, special effects and all-around code programming, while Philippe is our flight and engine dynamics model developer. Truth be said, though, all our developers have their hands on various bits and pieces of the code, so those job descriptions are only part of what our associates contribute: Our real strength is the unity of our team and the synergies it provides.

1. Which models will be included on initial release?

(Andrew) Initially we’ll be releasing the A320-X, which will serve as the base package for our Flight Sim Labs A320 series. Following this, we’ll be adding expansion products that will extend the A320 series product line to include the A319-X and the A321-X, each of which will be simulated to the same standard as our A320-X and will include many of the intricate details that are unique to both airframes. There are many things that the A319 and A321 do differently, and we’ll be simulating these differences in our products.

2. Are you planning to realize other Airbus series in future (330/340)?

(Andrew) Yes – we have developed our own specialized infrastructure to support the various digital data networks that form the foundation of the Airbus series. These include ARINC 429 (with ARINC 600/615 data stream support), ARINC 424, and RS422 (with ARINC 600 support).
We have also designed code libraries to handle the analog data systems found on the A320 – ones that use electrical current to send and receive a flow of data between the systems. Most of the components that make up an A320 have been modeled – from relay switches, fuses, circuit breakers, diodes – to fuel pumps, servo control valves, hydraulic accumulators, batteries and transformers. In total we have over 60,000 of these components running in our simulation of the A320-X. The result is a simulation of an A320 that is very much like the real thing.
We anticipate the infrastructure we’ve developed will be used to expand our A3XX fleet at Flight Sim Labs.

3. If possible, please tell us your own opinion about your A320 project. What in this model makes you proud? What is strong side of this model?

(Philippe) The level of realism achieved in our FSLabs A320-X makes us very proud and we are certain it will be a major step up in the development of desktop flight simulation industry. The modularity of its design will allow the professional version of the A320-X (which will follow in the footsteps of our FSX release) to fulfill expectations and requirements of professional pilots and training personnel in their day to day operations: systems, flight dynamics, ground dynamics, engine models, and visuals.
Our team has avoided several FSX limitations by developing flight and engine models that function outside the FSX internal update cycle to render drag (friction, induced, wave, trim, flaps, etc.) and thrust components of each aircraft variant allowing freedom in calculating components of flight such as atmospheric influence, bleed air demands as well as damage caused by overstress conditions.
Realism of a successful simulation doesn’t only depend on the time the aircraft spends in-flight. As such, a lot of attention was paid to the ground model to get the correct ground friction and handling: the lateral component during turns and cross wind landings and the longitudinal component for realistic taxi thrust. A correct wheel shock model was added to absorb the huge mass transfer that occurs during aborted take-offs and while the aircraft is braking after landing.
Hard work has gone into making all this possible: Over 2 years of research and development, hundreds of hours of Class-D simulator testing, in-flight measurements made by our dedicated technical advisor pilot team, technical documentation data mining and high-end tools such as neural network realization software.

4. Are you planning to realize variations in cockpit, for example CRT/LCD displays, different STBY instruments?

(Andrew) Our A320-X is based upon the latest v1.7.0 software standard update to the A320 series with EIS2 LCD displays, which includes the Integrated Standby Instrument System (ISIS). Given the level of detail we have modeled the A320-X, it would be almost impossible to model the former EIS1 system (v1.3.2) without a significant rewrite of our code. We will, however, be looking to extend the FSLabs A320-X series with a number of airline options that are available to the various operators of the A320 series.

5. Are you planning to make a wing flex?

(Philippe) One of the characteristics of the A320 wing is its rigidity. Those of your readers who have been passengers inside an A320 will have noticed that the wingtip doesn't move much at all during take-off and landings, except for a somewhat small bounce. The wing certainly does not flex due to lift forces, as would, for example, the wing of the larger A340 in the series. Expect to see the same thing in the FSLabs A320-X: The bounce is properly modeled – it would be unrealistic to add wing flex.

6. Are you planning to make terrain and wx radars?

(Andrew) The A320-X is equipped with a working terrain radar – a very complex system to simulate properly. At this time, we are still investigating the possibilities of simulating a weather radar, but our sentiment remains that without proper data that would accurately inform of cloud droplet contents, any wx radar depiction is not less than fake.

7. Are you planning to make payload and fuel loader?

(Philippe) Yes definitely. Our simulated aircraft models weight and balance components with a very high degree of accuracy. The dry mass of the aircraft has been designed for each variant following the W&B manuals accompanying its real-world counterpart.
The fuel model has been treated mathematically in three-dimensional space, resulting in each tank fuel quantity causing a correspondingly accurate CG impact as a proper 3d vector. We owe significant gratitude to our technical advisors who provided us access to their LPC software, allowing us to verify that our modeled configurations were properly following real aircraft specifications during our cross checks.

8. Are you planning to make some non-standard configurations of airplane, for example, A320 from AIR INDIA or A319 with engines from A320 (as in Drukair)?

(Philippe) One of our team’s strong sides is the modularity of the models featured through the A320-X design. If an A319 aircraft needs to wear A320 engines, this is certainly allowed through our configuration files, as the engine component mechanism is plug-and-play.

9. Which liveries will be included in initial release? Will you release a paint kit (before or after release)?

(Andrew) The paint kit will be free and available to all customers of the A320-X.
We expect that the main product purchase will include our default Flight Sim Labs livery, but we’re still exploring our licensing options regarding inclusion of extra liveries to be installed as part of the A320-X base package (we do not wish to step on any toes, given how close our product will be to simulating the real aircraft).
We have been running a poll on our Facebook page (it can be found at http://www.facebook.com/flightsimlabs ) where we ask our friends to vote for their favorite airline liveries – the most popular of which will either be included with the main installer, or be made available to download (as free add-on components) at or around the same time the A320-X is released.

 

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Flight Sim Labs, Ltd.

A little bit of rain won't delay the A320-X from arriving!

 

Sacado de su fb como viene siendo habitual -> https://www.facebook.com/flightsimlabs

 

Rote, tienes que entrar aquí con tu cuenta de AS http://support.aerosoft.com/support.php y una vez dentro registrar tu AXE y entonces ya tendrás acceso a la 1.10 mas el sound pack.

 

En el foro de AS ahí un par de hotfix 14,15 http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/forum/541-hotfixes-updates/

 

Un saludo.

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Un saludo.

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Bueno, pues ya he hecho una primera prueba con el Extended. No a fondo porque aun tengo que resolver el problema del throttle, pero no punta mal. Algo menos trabajado en cuanto a sistemas que el Maddog 2010 o los PMDG, pero MUY bonito.

 

En cuanto a la actualización, al ser version caja, te avisa de que tienes una actualizacion disponible y si la qiueres descargar.

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Que problema tienes con el throttle RB?

 

No lo he trasteado mucho porque he cambiado de maquina, solo tengo el Dash instalado y hasta el mes que viene no lo instalare todo, pero no recuerdo tener problemas de throttle en la nueva version.

 

Y estoy contigo en que es muy bonito, con este y el Majestic es dificil volar otra cosa menos un caza :icon_mrgreen:de los aviones que yo dispongo. Tanto eyecandy nos a vuelto exigentes juas!

 

Es un buen Plasticbus como dicen algunos :aplauso-6:

 

Saludos

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Eyecandy en toda regla y pese que ahora han añadido bastante features nuevas va mejorando la cosa, veremos que nos queda al final.

 

Ahora ver ahí los test de fuego y demás y no poder seguir una check-list porque no están simulados :game:

 

Un saludo.

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Que problema tienes con el throttle RB?

 

No lo he trasteado mucho porque he cambiado de maquina, solo tengo el Dash instalado y hasta el mes que viene no lo instalare todo, pero no recuerdo tener problemas de throttle en la nueva version.

 

Y estoy contigo en que es muy bonito, con este y el Majestic es dificil volar otra cosa menos un caza :icon_mrgreen:de los aviones que yo dispongo. Tanto eyecandy nos a vuelto exigentes juas!

 

Es un buen Plasticbus como dicen algunos :aplauso-6:

 

Saludos

 

Es un problema conocido con el Throttle, pero no me apetecia mucho investigar y ademas el iMac no puede con FSX...

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Noticias desde fslabs.

 

MikeM-



this is how it stands currently:

It's the summer of 2013, it's really hot outside and we're all sitting in our respective offices working on the code, 12-14 hours per day. The A320-X is a very - VERY - complex aircraft and we're taking the simulation level to limits never before seen in any desktop simulator, bar none.

You are right that we could be more forthcoming with news and updates, but they'd get repetitive, as most of the work done at the moment has to do with behind-the-scenes stuff, calculations, flight performance, fly-by-wire logic and responses that we could neither "draw" nor "explain" to our customers in that sense.

We are making tremendous progress however - there's a gag order on our beta testers that won't be lifted until the final days before release, so they're even more upset than you are - but for a different reason: They can't be explaining what the bird does, in all its glory - yet.

Let's not draw this into a long-winded argument. We know you want the product - we want to give it to you too. - We want to give it to you more than you want it, even! (boy - that sounds almost taken out of a low-budget movie smile.png).

So - please have patience. We've not abandoned the A320, in fact we're closer than we've ever been to completion! (and tomorrow we'll even break that record, not to mention the day after that!).

Best to you,

 

http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/4490-the-a320-a-medium-ish-update/page__st__300#entry25506

 

Un saludo.

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Hoy he empezado a volar "en serio" el Airbus X Extended. Tiene cosas que me gustan y otras que no tanto.

 

La apariencia es impecable, en ese aspecto los de Aerosoft han hecho un buen trabajo. También me gusta la opción de utilitzar el primer oficial para los primeros vuelos (opcional), la barra de información (también opcional) y sobre todo que te vayan leyendo las checklists (en inglés, por supuesto, es una buena manera de ir cogiendo oído). Es una tonteria pero también se agradecen ruidos ambientales como el copi tosiendo, etc...

 

El nivel de simulación yo diria que es similar al del ATR72 de Flight1. Varias (demasiadas para mi gusto) zonas no son clikceables y se echa de menos un generador de fallos aleatorios. El Fuel Planner tambien se lo podían haber trabajado un poco más. La documentación y el tutorial de vuelo también dejan mucho que desear.

 

Hoy al hacer el primer vuelo (LXGB - LEMD) me he quedado sin pista para despegar y me he ido al agua, no se si por un fallo mío o porque...

 

Conclusión... lo dicho, se puede equiparar al ATR72 de Flight1... no es un <Ctrl>+<E> y echar a volar, pero tampoco llega al nivel del MD-11 de PMDG... muy interesante para los que buscan un termino medio. Me está sirviendo para conocer la filosofia Airbus (mucho más parecida de lo que creia a McDonnell Douglas), pero si en algun momento FSLabs saca una versión caja me iré a por ella...

 

Por cierto... busco SOP y checklists REALES de alguna compañía que opere Airbus (Iberia, Vueling...) la FCOM ya las tengo fichadas.

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Lefteris has already said we underestimated the complexity of the A320. There are no hidden agenda's here, we're not sat around all day playing Solitaire smile.png

If you want to know why the A320-X is taking so long, go and take a look at the Aircraft Schematic Manual - there's your answer!

 

Now, the reason we are quiet at the moment is because a large internal build was released to our testing team last week. They're currently getting up to speed on the latest functionality we've modeled, and reporting back any issues they encounter. Our aim was to then bring you an update - but we've had to turn our attention to a number of important items on the project as a result of this latest internal release. I anticipate once some of this work is complete, you'll get an update from Lefteris on our progress.

 

Until then - here's a screenshot I took a little while ago.

 

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Un saludo.
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