Siegfried Posted April 19, 2014 Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Guay. Eso que se ve por la ventanilla si que es un ala, al menos en las fotos reducidas de tamaño. Además será como en el resto de aviones DCS. Esto si que es un simulador que avanza hacia adelante. Esperemos que acabe en nuestros discos duros y no se pierda por el camino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted April 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) Update 36 WW2 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts/822941 Hello folks, Today’s update is a small miracle. By late night Moscow time, as we decided to take some screenshots, we realized that the game’s WIP render stopped working for everyone. Programmers responsible had already gone home hours before. I began writing an apologetic update, and then, somehow, someway, our ingenious junior aircraft programmer managed to get the game working on his machine. So, I’m very happy to present to you the 109 in combat. (please note that his version of the 109 has many animations not working, such as landing gear and propeller arc, and has a lot of other system stuff showing. We decided not to mess with his development environment because time is very precious) On the development front, most of the tasks this week had to do with the cockpit and the sound. The 109 is beginning to sound very mean and very authentic. Our wonderful sound engineer also wrote an incredibly rousing theme for the 109, but I won’t be posting it just yet. The wonderful composer, talented but naïve in the ways of the world, submitted the latest version with a background sound effect of a certain historical leader reading a speech to a rousing roar. We’ll make sure it is removed of course, but this being late Friday night in Moscow, it won’t happen today. Other than that, the tasks remaining for the 109 are, in that order: finalize and test cockpit procedures; finalize sound; DB 605 engine tuning for medium and high altitudes; finalize manual; overall testing; finalize external animations; finalize damage model visuals; finalize flight performance; create game interface. The plan will likely change, especially in the smaller sub-tasks that I am not listing for each major step. However, the first two tasks (sound and cockpit) should complete next week, and DB 605 tuning, unless something goes horribly wrong, should take be done, well, so quickly that I cannot even force myself to write out the task duration publicly. And then, ladies and gentlemen, we’ll just need to test this here thing for serious and crash bugs for as long as it takes that to ensure they do not exist. The biggest task for the coming days for me personally is to finish up the 109 manual. There’s not much work to be done, just write out all cockpit procedures and make sure all the buttons and checklists are correct. Shooting to have the manual finished by, oh, May 10th. I’ll wrap this up with a couple of beaaautiful diagrams done for the 109 manual by our very talented graphic artist. The manuals are looking very spiffy. Cannot wait to see them in print! Have a great weekend! Edited April 26, 2014 by Silver_Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalahama Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 Esta quedando muy guapo el Gustav Saludos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) Update de Julio WW2 update: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2110895&postcount=1 Dear all, In this July 2014 update, the primary news is in regards to the restructured backer rewards. After a careful review of the older system under RRG, we found it financially unattainable. However, the restructured system still provides an excellent value for your backing contribution. For example: each aircraft will retail at $49.99; however, you will receive the item instead at only $20.00. This is in addition to other items such as the Normandy map ($20 contribution and above) and other perks as the backing contribution level rises. We also feel this new system dramatically reduces the chance of reward delivery confusion and delays. As software deliverables (aircraft and map keys) are ready for release, keys will be sent to backers based on their contribution level. Physical items like shirts, hats, etc. will be sent when the entire DCS: World War II: Europe 1944 project is complete per deliverable items stated in the rewards list at the bottom of this update. Per the update last week, we are pushing hard to deliver the originally planned aircraft and assets as fast as we can. Because we have additional staff assigned to this effort, this will accelerate the process and dramatically lessen the impact on our other projects (insert: “where is my Hornet?!” comments). Our ultimate goal is to create a unique battlefield environment within DCS World that is specifically tailored to Second World War air combat. This is a combination of the period aircraft, maps, navigation, communications, and objects that creates a total experience. DCS World is designed to encompass multiple time period and locations, and we see this as a keystone endeavor for just one slice of DCS World. As each part of DCS: World War II: Europe 1944 is created (aircraft and map), we will release it as a unique DCS World module (like we are currently preparing DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora for). Backers will get each part based on their contribution level. When all the pieces are done, we will create a bundle package that puts them all together in a single download / boxed purchase. In other words, there will be no separate installation that runs outside of DCS World. That would defeat the primary goal of DCS World. As we get closer to the launch of DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora in August 2014, we are working on a mechanism to provide an Alpha copy to $40 and up contributors. DCS World War II: Europe 1944 Backer Rewards: $1-19 Bronze Backer credit in manuals $20 Bronze Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map $40 Bronze Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual $60 Silver Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual $80 Silver Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual $100 Silver Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual $120 Gold Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual $140 Gold Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Alpha access $160 Gold Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any DCS product $180 Platinum Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any DCS product TFC Polo Shirt $200 Platinum Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar $250 Platinum Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft $500 Diamond Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy $1,000 Diamond Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy One custom paint scheme for the aircraft of your choice $2,000 Diamond Backer credit in manuals DCS: P-51D Mustang and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Bf-109K, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Spitfire, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: P-47D Thunderbolt, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual DCS: Me.262, Alpha access, and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy One custom paint scheme for the aircraft of your choice Your face on the pilot model of your plane of choice Edited July 7, 2014 by Silver_Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Update de la lista de WW2 (ahora los aparatos son seleccionables): http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2112208&postcount=1 Dear all, We have been listening to the good and bad feedback from yesterday’s announcement and we recognize that we made a mistake. We agree that it is not fair that someone that already purchased P-51D or Fw 190 should be forced to receive them again when there are other project aircraft they prefer. We apologize. As such, we are in the process of redesigning the backer’s page to allow you to choose the aircraft YOU wish. You will get a number of aircraft selection slots based on your contribution level as listed in the list below. If you earlier paid a shipping cost, it will be added to your total pledge amount. $1-19 Bronze Backer credit in manuals $20 Bronze Backer credit in manuals One aircraft of choice and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map $40 Bronze Backer credit in manuals Two aircraft of choice and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map $60 Silver Backer credit in manuals Three aircraft of choice and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map $80 Silver Backer credit in manuals Four aircraft of choice and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map $100 Silver Backer credit in manuals Five aircraft of choice and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map $120 Gold Backer credit in manuals All aircraft of choice and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map $140 Gold Backer credit in manuals All aircraft and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access $160 Gold Backer credit in manuals All aircraft and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product $180 Platinum Backer credit in manuals All aircraft and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt $200 Platinum Backer credit in manuals All aircraft and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar $250 Platinum Backer credit in manuals All aircraft and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft $500 Diamond Backer credit in manuals All aircraft and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy $1,000 Diamond Backer credit in manuals All aircraft and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy One custom paint scheme for the aircraft of your choice $2,000 Diamond Backer credit in manuals All aircraft and print-ready PDF manual Normandy Map Normandy Map Alpha access Copy of any Eagle Dynamics developed DCS product TFC Polo Shirt TFC hat and calendar Two keys for each aircraft One existing aircraft skin with your name below the canopy One custom paint scheme for the aircraft of your choice Your face on the pilot model of your plane of choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrequiem Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Esto me suena a PEDO... no se por que. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Puma Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 siento un olor similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaz0 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 esta muy bien compensado los tramos de backers: entre 250 pavos y 500 te retocan en 15 minutos un skin y te ponen tu nombre bajo la cabina, yo si quieres lo hago por 200 hamijo! entre 500 y 1000, te hacen un skin custom del habion que quieras, como si luego la gente no los pudiera sacar? entre 1000 pavos y 2000, la diferencia es que pongan tu puta cara o no en el juego... ... 1000 pavos para que pongan tu cara en un juego/simulador!!!!! Vengaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Puma Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Por 5000 puedes volar desnudo por el Juego sin necesidad de avión y por 10.000 te hacen cuerpos pintados y te instalan una ametralladora en la Xxxxx..... Que gozada !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mertons Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) A ver si me aclaráis el tema, porque me estoy empezando a cabrear:Cuando yo hice mi aportación, elegí el tramo de $40 porque me daba acceso a todos los aviones volables, tal y como todavía se puede ver en la web del proyecto en Kickstarter. ¿Significan estos updates que han cambiado el sistema de recompensas, y que de lo que yo "compré" ahora sólo me vana a dar un tercio? Porque si es así, me bajo del carro pero ya! Y ojo, que no es por el dinero (vuelo Rise of Flight ), es que me parece un timo y una estafa que te ofrezcan unas condiciones , y que cuando a ellos les parezca las rebajen a menos de la mitad. A ver si me resolvéis la duda, saludos Edited July 9, 2014 by Mertons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) El problema ha sido que RRG ha desaparecido / disuelto, ED se ha hecho cargo del proyecto (inyectando 120.000$ en el desarrollo del BF-109K y quedandose con parte del equipo de desarrollo de RRG) y ahora a cambiado los tramos, porque las promesas de Luthiem eran insostenibles de cumplir y economicamente inviables. Me imagino que ED haya hablado con KS para ver si podían cambiarlos. Edited July 9, 2014 by Silver_Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel101 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 A ver si me aclaráis el tema, porque me estoy empezando a cabrear: Cuando yo hice mi aportación, elegí el tramo de $40 porque me daba acceso a todos los aviones volables, tal y como todavía se puede ver en la web del proyecto en Kickstarter. ¿Significan estos updates que han cambiado el sistema de recompensas, y que de lo que yo "compré" ahora sólo me vana a dar un tercio? Porque si es así, me bajo del carro pero ya! Y ojo, que no es por el dinero (vuelo Rise of Flight ), es que me parece un timo y una estafa que te ofrezcan unas condiciones , y que cuando a ellos les parezca las rebajen a menos de la mitad. A ver si me resolvéis la duda, saludos Alguien ha gastado mas de lo que debia y se ha pirado, dejando el marron en casa de ED. Por 40$ parece ser que podras elegir 2 aviones de todos los que salgan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Peor hubiera sido que ED hubiera dicho que se cierra el chiringuito y no es nuestro problema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evola Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Coño, hay un Silver Bake!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaz0 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Peor hubiera sido que ED hubiera dicho que se cierra el chiringuito y no es nuestro problema. Pues hubiera sido lo normal, que el proyecto cierre, que el KS se anule y cada uno para su casa sin mayor problema, a posteriori ED pudiera haber dicho, oye que contamos con el material este que hizo RRG y queremos seguir adelante, quien quiere? se abra un NUEVO KS, con las NUEVAS condiciones y quien quiera que ponga dinero... no asi, que tienen pillados backers del proyecto anterior... Lo que comparto con Mertons es que las condiciones en las que él puso su dinero no son las que ofrecen ahora y que espero den la posibilidad de echarse atras a los backers que no lo vean correcto, es mas creo recordar que por RRG se llego a ofrecer que por la aportacion minima te daban un habion... yo si pongo 1€ para que me den el mod y ahora solo me van a poner mi nombre en los creditos, me gustaria retirar mi euro. Un comentario de la pagina de KS... por ejemplo.. So instead of THREE aircraft I get... ZERO! Thanks a lot ED! Edited July 9, 2014 by Zaz0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrequiem Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Coño, hay un Silver Bake!! JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA, me voy a cambiar de nickname jajajajaja Peor hubiera sido que ED hubiera dicho que se cierra el chiringuito y no es nuestro problema. Silver, ¿lo dices en serio?, por que de verdad esto huele a PEDO. Las cosas no se hacen así, se cierra el KS y se empieza uno nuevo, de hecho los ks tienen ese riesgo y se debe calcular antes de abrirlos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mertons Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Pues ya ves Zazo, menudo planchazo que me acabo de llevar... Entre esto y el Star Citizen, no vuelvo a "backear" en los días de mi vida! Y lo peor, ahora a romperme la cabeza a ver qué dos aviones elijo, teniendo en cuenta que ya tengo el mustang... Supongo que, viniendo de donde vengo, el 109 K debería ser uno de ellos, pero el otro? Dora o Spitfire? ¿Por dónde van los tiros en el escuadrón? Si es que esto me pasa por no leerme los post-tocho de Silver Dragon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hellrequiem. Luthiem y RRG prometieron el Oro y el Moro a los Backers, se pegaron el peo mas grande que el culo y le salió el tiro por la culata. Aun en el caso de cerrarlo ¿como devuelves el dinero a los que lo pusimos si ya lo has invertido y gastado en el proyecto?, ¿Metiendo una demanda por juzgado?. ED hizo lo unico logico que se podía hacer, seguirlo, poniendo su dinero en ello como lo ha hecho LN con el Mig-21Bis, pero bajo su ferreo control, aunque los perjudicados seamos nosotros. Como dice el dicho, prefiero pajaro en mano, que ciento volando, aun que por mis 40$ solo tenga dos aparatos y un teatro nuevo bajo las nuevas condiciones, es mejor que no tener nada. Sobre lo de poner una nueva KS, viendo lo que ha pasado antes con campañas KS, Indeogogo y similares por 3rd Parties y Patrocinadores (Beczl Studios, Kinney Interactive y ahora RRG Studios), la gente no se plantea ni por asomo volver a poner un duro en algo similar en mucho, mucho tiempo. Una nueva KS no hubiera solucionado nada, y muy dificil que tuviese exito. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel101 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Zazo, se nos jodio el chollo de abrir un KS para DCS:P.E.D.O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaz0 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) KS cuando quita el dinero, cuando se funda el proyecto? no habia una movida que si el proyecto se desbandaba se devolvia la pasta a los backers? pues entonces vaya confianza en KS y esas cosas me dejas (que ya tenia 0), por que ahora coje el Star Citizen, lo dejan tal cual y os comeis los mocos? Escrito Hoy, 20:05 Zazo, se nos jodio el chollo de abrir un KS para DCS:P.E.D.O. Queva caya caya Angel, que lo hacemos y nos quedamos con la pasta, facil y sencillo, dejame escurriñarme en como va eso xD Edited July 9, 2014 by Zaz0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrequiem Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 esto... ¿como devuelves el dinero a los que lo pusimos si ya lo has invertido y gastado en el proyecto? buscas en CADA usuario que te entrego su confianza, pides una cuenta de paypal o de banco y bueno, lo demás es decir que estamos en 2014. Ese argumento es bueno para la década de los ochenta. Debierion pensar en eso. Y si, la credibilidad de los KS esta disminuyendo y eso tampoco es culpa de los usuarios. ¿Sera que los que compraron el adiez en su día tendrán el mapa de nevada gratis? cuando la credibilidad disminuye surgen estas preguntas, eso es natural Silver. Por otro lado, los KS parecen ser la nueva moda para desarrolladores innovadores, supongo que así son las cosas ahora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 ED ya ha tomado una decisión en esto, y solo nos queda tomarlo o dejarlo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrequiem Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Entonces así son las cosas ahora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Puma Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Eso mismo ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) Otro nuevo update a la lista: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=126791 $1-19 Bronze Backer credit in manuals $20 value of bonus points Edited July 10, 2014 by Silver_Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.