Ce_zeta Posted January 16, 2015 Report Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Parece que al final se han alineado los astros. Casi un año despues desde que Project Tupolev liberara el código fuente del GPS KLN-90B, un experto programador (el instrumento esta en C++), entusiasta de este GPS se ha puesto manos para terminar de portar a FSX uno de los grandes GPS de los noventa. En estos momentos esta en beta, solucionando los errores que se va encontrando, pero pinta bien. El KLN-90B fue un autentico superventas antes de que sobreviniera la "plaga" de Garmin. Muchisimas Cessnas, Pipers, Beechs, y Twin Otters y muchisimos aviones mas instalaron entraron en la era del GPS con este Equipo. Como curiosidad, la mayoria de aviones ex-soviéticos fueron modernizados con este GPS. Tupolevs 134/154, Ilyushins 62/76 e incluso An-2 fueron equipados con el KLN-90B para volar en el extranjero. Es de esperar que empecemos a ver en pocos meses aviones equipados con el PT KLN-90B...un GPS muy interesante para aviación general sobre todo. Es de agradecer que en un mundo hoy dominado por Garmin y sus 295, 430 y 530 (de estos dos ultimos hay un desarrollo grautito disponible, se usa por ejemplo en el DC-3 de Manfred Jahn) en el mundo FS, haya otras opciones libres disponibles para los desarrolladores de aviones gratuitos. El desarrollo se puede seguir en este hilo. Edited January 24, 2015 by Ce_zeta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ce_zeta Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) Wow, este programador trabaja como el rayo, no hay nada como poner ilusión en algo. De momento, ya casi ha arreglado todos los bugs que traia el GPS, que eran unos cuantos mas de los que parecia. Solo falta arreglar el tema de los SID/STAR (apt 7) para tener el GPS plenamente funcional. Ademas se ha añadido la capacidad de cargar el Plan de vuelo de FSX y de cargar la BBDD de FSX en caso de no disponer de la original de PT. Solo hay que ver como luce ahora: Pero no se va a quedar aqui. Ahora veamos lo que esta implementado y lo que no. Lado izquierdo: NAV pages: 1-5 Todas implementadas FPL pages: 0-25 Todas implementadas MOD pages: 1-2 Todas implementadas TRI pages: 0-7 No disponible. CAL pages: 4 is implementada. 1-3 and 5-7 No disponible. STA pages: nothing. 1-4 No disponible. SET pages: pages 0-3 implementada. 5-7 No disponible. OTH pages: page 3 implementada, 1-2 and 4-10 No disponible. Lado derecho: NAV pages: 1-5 Todas implementadas ACT page: Implementada. REF page: No disponible. CTR page: No disponible. APT pages: 1-7 implementada, #8 No disponible. VOR page: implementada. NDB page: implementada. INT page: implementada. SUP page: implementada. Con lo que hay funcionando, ya podemos disfrutar del KLN90B mas completo en el universo FS. La idea que tiene el programador es de implementar todas las páginas que faltan salvo las de estado (STA) y puntos de ruta de entrada a FIR (CTR). Y en breve se cambiará la imagen del GPS, que la que se ve le falta resolución....Y es que al menos desde 2008 no se trabaja en este GPS. Edited August 2, 2015 by Ce_zeta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ce_zeta Posted January 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 ya tenemos la beta 0.76b con instalador propio, sonidos y manual. El enlace para descarga aqui. El archivo leeme: README for the KLN90B for FSX/P3D Beta version 0.76B 23 JAN 2015----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Installation------------To install the KLN90B into your sim simply execute the provided installer. It will place the gauge in your Gauges folder and create a new folder in your FS folder named'KLN90B' which will contain all the options, databases, and other files needed to makethe gauge function.The installer will look for your FSX root folder in the registry and that will be thedefault location it will suggest. It will not detect Prepar3d version 2, nor FSX-SEif FSX-SE is installed alongside FSX. You will need to browse to your FS folder toinstall in either of those cases. DO NOT INSTALL this anywhere else but you FS rootfolder or it won't work! The exception is that you may choose to install to a temporarylocation and then copy the components into your FS folder. That's okay, just be sureto copy everything to the right place.One of the folders in the KLN90B folder is named 'Manuals'. That contains all the information you will need to use and configure the KLN90B. At least read the KLN90Bfor FSX User's Guide, even if you are familiar with the actual GPS unit, or you maysuffer some frustration with the way the knobs are turned. There are also some FSextensions that are not obvious until you read the manual.What's New?----------* There is documentation! Look in the KLN90B\Manuals folder for a 20-page User's Guide.* Sound has been added. Knobs and buttons click. The sound of the inner knob is different from the outer one.* A new hidden click spot has been implemented in the black hole to the left of the power knob. It will toggle the default AP heading being driven by the KLN. It will light green when the AP is being driven in this way. The option to toggle this from the KLN90B add-on menu is still there. The green light will light if that is used too. The option to place your AP in HDG mode but your NAV/GPS switch in GPS moed is also operational but the green light will not illuminate in this case. This does not apply to the TU-154 ABSU which is always available to be selected from the PT TU-145 cockpit.* The course tracking when the KLN90B is driving your default AP heading has been greatly improved and is more reliable and accurate.* The database can now be rebuilt to include soft runways (previously only hard ones were available) and ILS frequencies. The ILS frequencies will be reported on the previously unused APT 5 page.* Many more options have been added to the KLN90B.CNF file. See the documentation for details.* The ability to use SIDS and STARS is disabled. APT 7 will say there are none available. This is because the code is too buggy and crash-prone to be reliable. These will be re-enabled in a future lease when they work. If you just have to have this, the option SIDSTAR=1 in the [KLN90B] section of the configuration file will bring them back. You do this at your own risk.History-------The project is built from the source code for the KLN90B that was generously placed in the public domain by the Project Tupolev team in the spring of 2014. A group ofFS enthusiasts that are interested in the KLN90B for FSX/P3D have been contributingto the continued development of the gauge, and this is the latest and greatest versionof it available to the public.The goal of this project is to take the already realistic KLN90B simulation and makeit even more complete and authentic so that it can be considered an emulation not justa simulation. By release 1.00 we want to have every feature of the original that ispossible to simulate in FSX/P3D. The second goal is to produce a gauge that canbe used as a practical working GPS navigation instrument, not just a historical relic.To that end some extensions to the KLN90B have been and will be introduced to make iteasier to use in the FS world. But each of these will be a configurable option that can be turned off -- so that if desired, only the totally authentic plain vanilla KLN90B will be presented.Since this gauge came from Project Tupolev it will always support the interface to theTU-154 by exporting the nav information that the ABSU needs. This is always automatic,no option needs to be turned on or off, and it doesn't affect navigation in non-TU-154aircraft -- which is done by driving the default autopilot heading.Change Log----------Here is the current change log, from the moment the public domain source modificationsstarted:// Revision Log// 150113 CEO 0.071B Added VERT_ADJ and HORZ_ADJ to adjust position of text window (solved bottom line chop)// 150115 CEO 0.071B Fixed DWORD bug in get_magdec(), DTK is now right for negative lat/long// 150115 CEO 0.071B Changed RUSSIAN to ANSI CHARSET creating font, and standardized on Lucida Console// 150115 CEO 0.072B Cleaned up all level 1 compiler warnings - several uninitialized vars!// 150115 CEO 0.072B Made VOR display always "FR" (from) in NAV2 page.// 150116 CEO 0.072B KLN will control heading when AP is active, set on HDG, and NAV/GPS switch is GPS.// 150116 CEO 0.072B The config file is now named KLN90B.CNF in the KLN90B folder in the FSX root where the navdata is.// 150116 CEO 0.072B New option FONT=0|1 where 0 is the default Lucida Console and 1 is Terminus. Others may be added.// 150116 CEO 0.072B Pressing ENT when on FPL 0 and not in CRSR mode will load the MSFS flight plan into FPL 0// 150116 CEO 0.072B AP nav calculation will track to next WP until that course is within 5 degrees of DTK.// 150117 CEO 0.073B Made airport/navaid names all upper case to match real KLN// 150117 CEO 0.073B Fixed the "mangled angle" on NAV4 page.// 150117 CEO 0.073B Fixed situation where font & pen were created multiple times.// 150118 CEO 0.073B Now rebuilds database from FSX BGL databases if PTT nav data files are missing.// 150118 CEO 0.074B Indicated Altitude and Kohlsman setting are now read from the air data interface// 150119 CEO 0.074B Fixed bug where intersections in the MSFS flight plan weren't copied into FPL0.// 150119 CEO 0.074B Changed waypoint-sequencing logic to reproduce what the real KLN90B does.// 150119 CEO 0.074B Changed background image to a higher resolution gray bezel.// 150119 CEO 0.074B Revised course intercept logic to be more aggressive in getting back on course.// 150120 CEO 0.075B ILS frequencies added in place of previously unused APT 5.// 150120 CEO 0.075B Now supports both HRD and SFT runway types. // 150120 CEO 0.075B corrected a couple more cases of string overflow on APT pages.// 150120 CEO 0.075B Added options to be able to control AP HDG mode, ILS freq, and soft runways.// 150120 CEO 0.075B Implemented the MSG-ENT shortcut to the nearest airport pages.// 150121 CEO 0.076B Fixed bug where if you let it navigate to destination it would crash.// 150121 CEO 0.076B Greatly improved on-course driving of the default AP heading.// 150122 CEO 0.076B Implemented a click spot to switch to AP heading mode.// 150123 CEO 0.076B Added sounds for the buttons and knobs.// 150123 CEO 0.076B Disabled loading of STD/STARS but added option SIDSTAR=1 to load anyway.Note: The original gauge implemented SID/STARS. We have determined that the code at this pointdoes not often insert the waypoints in the right location and is crash-prone. Therefore, we havetemporarily disabled access to the APT 7 page until these problems can be resolved. To fly a SID or STAR, insert the waypoints manually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISAFRESCA Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Del quince , yo por el momento lo intentaré instalar en el yak-40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ce_zeta Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 (edited) El KLN guia a: Aquellos aviones que usen el AP del FSX (la mayoria de aviones que no sean patanegra © ). PT Tu-154B2. En el resto de aviones que tengan un AP hecho con código personalizado no funcionará la guia del GPS. Edited January 25, 2015 by Ce_zeta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISAFRESCA Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 El KLN guia a: Aquellos aviones que usen el AP del FSX (la mayoria de aviones que no sean patanegra © ). PT Tu-154B2. En el resto de aviones que tengan un AP hecho con código personalizado no funcionará la guia del GPS. Pues que pena, y eso que el AP del Yak es super básico. Saludos Brisafresca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ce_zeta Posted August 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Coloco aqui la recopilación de GPS existentes en FS/X-plane. En cursiva los GPS que se venden por separado. Garmin 430 (Don Kuhn) . Gratuito. Modelado el tema de la navegación Garmin 430 (Reality XP). Vale lo mismo que un patanegra®. Es el entrenador de Garmin portado al mundo FS y X-plane. Airac no actualizable? Garmin 430 (Mindstar). Vale lo mismo que un patanegra®. Airac de RealNav. Orientado al uso comercial. Garmin 430 (GPS por defecto X-plane). Garmin 500 (GPS por defecto FSX). Garmin 530 (Don Kuhn). Gratuito. Modelado el tema de la navegación Garmin 530 (Reality XP). vale lo mismo que un patanegra®. Es el entrenador de Garmin portado al mundo FS y X-plane. Airac no actualizable? Garmin 530 (Mindstar). vale lo mismo que un patanegra®. Airac de RealNav. Orientado al uso comercial Garmin 195. viene por defecto? Bendix/King KLN90B (Project Tupolev). Gratuito. En este hilo podeis ver lo que tiene comparado con el real. En desarrollo Bendix/King KLN90B (Aerosoft Twin Otter). Sin soporte. La nueva Twin otter monta el Garmin 500 de FSX personalizado). Bendix/King KLN90B (EADT). Gratuito. BBDD actualizable.Tampoco dispone de todas las páginas pero se queda muy cerca. Trimble 2000 (Digital Aviation en la Cheyenne) Para Fs9. Sin soporte ya creo. Garmin G-1000 (Flight1). Le faltan cosicas de las paginas auxiliares. Sin soporte WAAS. Garmin G-1000 Student (Flight1). vale lo mismo que un patanegra®. Orientado al uso comercial Garmin G-1000 (Carenado ). Si al de F1 le faltan a este ya... Garmin G-1000 (Mindstar). vale lo mismo que un patanegra®. Airac de RealNav. Orientado al uso comercial Garmin GTN-650 (Flight1) Vale lo mismo que un patanegra®. Usa cosicas del entrenador de Garmin. Garmin GTN-750 (Flight1) Vale lo mismo que un patanegra®. Usa cosicas del entrenador de Garmin. Seguro que hay mas, pero espero que esten todos los GPS mas representativos. En conclusión, tenemos los GPS gratuitos que modelan las paginas de navegación y las usuales, aqui entraria el GPS 430 de X-plane. Luego están los integrados en los aviones que lo mismo, algunos tienen mas cosas implementadas, otros menos pero ninguno está completo. Luego tenemos los GPS de pago de Mindstar, Reality XP y Flight1. El unico modelado fielmente es el de RealityXP porque simplemente es el entrenador de Garmin enlazado al sim, pero a cambio no tiene AIRACs actualizables ni ya soporte. A los otros les falta alguna carácteristica tipo WAAS o la BBDD del terreno sin cobertura mundial. Los que emplean el Airac de Navigraph o NavDataPro no tienen capacidad WAAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ce_zeta Posted September 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Ya tenemos nueva versión para ensayar, la 0.77B. Los reportes de fallos, escribrlos en el hilo de FSDeveloper. Esta vez ha sido Gabor quien ha retomado el testigo y ha realizado los siguientes cambios: Installation Install v0.76B with its installer. Overwrite the kln90b.dll with the new DLL in the Gauges directory of FSX. Install any of the supported Navigraph FMS Data packs. No such package is provided with the KLN90B package itself. Make the necessary modifications in the KLN90B.CNF config file in the KLN90B directory of FSX Run FSX. It might ask you to allow using the new version of the DLL. Acknowledge it. ImprovementsSID/STAR bugs are fixed and feature is re-enabled. Besides the current navigation pack, support for three Navigraph FMS packages are added. SID/STAR transition support is added to APT+7 pages (see KLN 90B Pilot Guide chapter 6.2 SID/STAR Procedures). Available if used with any of the Navigraph FMS packages. Offers adding the STAR airport to the flight plan if it is not yet included (see KLN 90B Pilot Guide chapter 6.2.2 Selecting a STAR point 7) Removes possible duplicate waypoints at the end of the SID and at the beginning of the STAR. Maximum number of flight plan points is increased from the real life 30 to 50 to support longer SID/STARs. In later versions this might be going in the config file as parameter to support those who want to stick to the real life limitations. Displaying UTC time on the INIT page. ILS frequencies are added correctly for airports with add-on sceneries. Fully qualified debug file name can be defined in the config file. Storing only live flight plan points into the flight plan file (no garbage points at the end of each FP). Supported FMS packagesPT proprietary package (no updates are planned) EADT KLN 90B from Navigraph PSS Airbus/Boeing/Dash from Navigraph vasFMC Flight Management from Navigraph Definition of the FMS package in the config fileDefine the FMS package you have installed in the KLN90B.CNF configuration file including the package identifier number and the path to the package.[KLN90B]NAVDATA=4 ; Navigation data package number (0-4); 0: no external navigation database; 1: traditional PTT database (no transitions); 2: "EADT KLN 90B" pack; 3: "PSS Airbus/Boeing/Dash" pack; 4: "vasFMC Flight Management" packNAVDIR=D:\SIM\FSX\KLN90B\DB\VASFMC ; Navigation data directory Se requiere la versión 0.76B Ojo, es una versión en desarrollo (inestable) asi que si no se va a testear (ensayar) mejor esperar a la siguiente versión. A mi me casca el sim por ejemplo Descarga directa Edited September 8, 2015 by Ce_zeta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhirko Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Hola Ce_Zeta, ¿Sabes si es posible arreglar el problema de la pantalla del GPS desubicada? Saludos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ce_zeta Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Justo en mi mensaje anterior tienes un enlace a la version 0.77. Puedes usar esa version pero si puedes renunciar a los SID/STAR. La ultima versión (0.78) los vuelve a añadir pero es bastante inestable por lo que no recomiendo su uso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhirko Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Sucede que había instalado la versión 0.76 pero no había actualizado... Sabes si puede integrarse a la cabina 3D del Tushka? Muchas gracias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ce_zeta Posted October 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Sucede que había instalado la versión 0.76 pero no había actualizado... Sabes si puede integrarse a la cabina 3D del Tushka? Muchas gracias. De momento no es posible. Cuando sea posible, los de Project Tupolev lo harán. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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