Silver_Dragon

DCS: FW-190D-9

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Como decían algunos de los beta testers, es muy complicado encontrar datos feacientes sobre ducumentación de tunel de viento y demas cuestiones, digamos que tenían la mala costumbre los rusos de desaparecer dichos datos.

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Estuve una vez en una conferencia de un piloto español en sirvió en la URSS y, efectivamente, según él, los Lavochin eran superiores a los Spit, los BF y compañía...

Eeso si esta bueno jej, tio no es saludable consumir demaciada Llanquitis, vamos lol, so, no solo consumas lo que ellos quieren y venden como los eternos salvadores del mundo y los mejores en todo, en fin. :-(

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PUes como sea como el Mig-3 del il-2, especialmente las primeras series......que se lo quede otro

Pues dejamelos a mi, fresco! lol

 

Al final creo que esto no ira del todo bien este tema de WW2 para el DCS, a parte el que mucho abarca poco aprieta, so podran tener el mejor desarrollo en simulacion de combate moderno y demas , pero el tema ww2 no estara muy bien, creo que esto ya va como mas me temia, asi de el tipico juego americano cn los modelitos americanitos clar, y casi nada de el resto de el mundo, creo que para la segunda me sigo quedando cn la IL2, que lastima, pense que me itegraria a este :-(

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Sobre lo de "quien mucho aprieta", hay que decir que estan haciendo un Su-27S/SM por ED. También unas 8 3rd Parties realizando, el Mig-21Bis, Mig-15Bis, L-39 Albatros y Mil Mi-8MTv2, Mas lo que llegue, en los planes estan un Mil Mi-24, Mig-23 y Mig-29S/STM y L-29 Dolphin. sobre lo de que ED le irá mal sobre lo de aparatos "fuera de epoca" el P-51D esta hecho basado en "The Fighter Collection", restauradores y mantenedores de aparatos reales de la WW2, catalogando este modulo uno de los mas fieles con respecto al aparato original en concepto de simulación y fisica.

 

Lista completa de aparatos en desarrollo aqui: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1724958#post1724958

 

Y lo de "simulación moderna", el concepto de lo que es DCS:World:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1480510&postcount=1

 



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Creo que a veces mezclamos las churras con las merinas. En lo que a nivel de simulación y físicas de vuelo el P-51 es una verdadera joya sin precedentes. Las sensaciones que trasmite no las he visto antes en ningún simulador de la WWII. El que DCS no desarrolle un producto no quiere decir que este no esté a la altura. El UH-1h está teniendo una gran aceptación y no lo ha desarrollo DCS. Hay empresas, entre otras, como A2A que llevan años con la aviación de la WWII y que si dieran el paso al DCS World sería el punto de partida para crear un entorno de la WWII sin precedentes. El FW-190D9 está a la vuelta de la esquina y seguramente al mismo nivel del P-51. Que DCS tiene que ponerse las pilas en algunos aspectos eso es por todos conocido, pero de ahí a pensar que en el DCS World no tiene cabida la WWII creo que va un abismo.

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Sobre lo de "quien mucho aprieta", hay que decir que estan haciendo un Su-27S/SM por ED. También unas 8 3rd Parties realizando, el Mig-21Bis, Mig-15Bis, L-39 Albatros y Mil Mi-8MTv2, Mas lo que llegue, en los planes estan un Mil Mi-24, Mig-23 y Mig-29S/STM y L-29 Dolphin. sobre lo de que ED le irá mal sobre lo de aparatos "fuera de epoca" el P-51D esta hecho basado en "The Fighter Collection", restauradores y mantenedores de aparatos reales de la WW2, catalogando este modulo uno de los mas fieles con respecto al aparato original en concepto de simulación y fisica.

 

Lista completa de aparatos en desarrollo aqui: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1724958#post1724958

 

Y lo de "simulación moderna", el concepto de lo que es DCS:World:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1480510&postcount=1

 

 

 

 

 

Enga Silver, tio me alegro que esten haciendo un gran trabajo, y asi es, me alegro que tenga ese buen y gran proyecto, hombre exito la verdad no quiero desalentar a nadie tampoco jej, es que en mi caso me entusiasme pues hasta vi esto del DCS como el futuro de la simulacion, pero luego como que me desencate por el tema WW2, ya que es el que mas me interesa, pero bueno nada.

 

Vi la lista de proyectos en desarroyo, y se ve muy prometedora, y tambien se ve que hay mucho trabajo por delante, pero nada, que sigan creciendo :aplauso-6:

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Yo-Yo hablando del motor de FW-190D-9 y sus caracteristicas (Traducción horripilante del ruso por google translator)

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=111475

 

Due to numerous requests of workers, food prices increase ... Oh, not at all ... gradually begin to talk about the Douro and its features. As with the development of the Mustang, the story is not just for the sake of the story, but to show to what depths of modeling has to climb to the model was similar to the prototype. Because apparently after the Mustang workers would ask for its historical rival, in his spare time was calculated BMW- 801, which (take my word) would have made ​​of Merlin is quite simple, even though Komandogerat. And then quite suddenly fell somewhere information that will be Dora - it was not good news ... As you know, used to D9 engine Jumo-213A. And Junkers engines had a great feature that almost led me first into a light stupor. Look at the high-altitude engine performance -'ll understand. (Look for yourself - they have at least two, plus a manual, and all the little not the same .) If conventional engines with a conventional drive supercharger boost pressure and constant below the critical height (it - border altitude) power decreases with decreasing altitude, then Jumo-213 it is either constant or even increases. Ordinary engines reason for this - in excess discharge capacity of the compressor below the altitude. The air is heated unnecessarily, spent part of the supercharger on the engine power, and created such a stupid price pressure is throttled. German designers have successfully solved the problem: on the DB-60X - between the first and second critical heights - by gradually increasing the blower speed and the Junkers engineers solved the problem In general, creating a smooth booster pressure is not controlled by changing the fan speed, but due to special valves at the inlet. Additionally there were still traditional and step speed. To absolutely bring high-altitude performance motor for the perfect - no peaks and valleys, the designers used the automatic adjustment is not just for boost pressure and the mass flow rate of air. Hydro MBG - analogue komandogerata BMW, perform roughly the same functions, integrating and defining a common program for the RPO, boost controller and fuel pump controller direct injection. An interesting detail: the Germans were able to make it so that the same unit aneroid controlled flow of air and fuel, which allowed the device to simplify and avoid mismatches that could result in deviations from the target mix quality and unavoidable when using a controller in each block of the aneroid. MBG also asked ignition timing and automatically switches the blower speed. Cancellations boost controller device automatically switches to manual mode by the second (auxiliary) choke, which normally worked only in a narrow range of positions ORE near idle.

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Yo-Yo ha colocado lo siguiente en el foro ruso:
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2031333&postcount=1

 

This was posted by Yo-Yo on the Russian side:

FW-190D9, охлаждение
Оригинальность технических решений Доры усугублялась нестандартным построением охлаждающих систем: самолет не имел отдельного маслорадиатора. Тепло от масла отводилось охлажденным в радиаторе антифризом в специальном теплообменнике. Естественно, что водорадиатор, на который из-за этого приходилась бОльшая тепловая нагрузка, был сделан увеличенной эффективной площадью.
По всей видимости, немецкие конструкторы сэкономили на автоматике маслорадиатора, подводящих трубопроводах.
А нам пришлось, в свою очередь, вводить еще одну модель в систему охлаждения - теплообменник жидкость-жидкость.
Google Translated:
FW-190D9, cooling
Originality of technical solutions Dora aggravated substandard building cooling systems: the plane did not have a separate oil cooler. Heat from withdrawing the cooled oil in the radiator antifreeze in a special heat exchanger. Naturally, the water cooler, which accounted for because of high thermal load, it was a larger effective area. Apparently, the German designers saved on oil cooler automation, supply lines .
And we had, in turn, introduce another model in the cooling system - liquid-liquid heat exchanger .

 

 

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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2055092&postcount=14

 

I have good news about Dora: the main systems work, the prop and the engine are functioning and verified (maybe some tweaks for an engine regarding mixture strength and matching the throttle and the injection pump characteristics).

The airframe aerodynamics is being tuned now. Some tweaks still required for under-gear, etc.

 

 

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DUXFORD, UK, June 16th, 2014 – The Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics will release DCS: Fw190 D-9 Dora as a digital download in August 2014
The Focke-Wulf Fw 190 is widely regarded as Germany's best fighter aircraft of World War II. Its appearance in the skies over France in August 1941 was a rude shock to the Allies, as it was clearly superior to any other plane. For nearly a year, the Fw 190 was the unmatched champion of the air war in Europe. The Fw 190 had speed and high altitude performance as its two great assets.
The development of advanced allied fighters resulted in the Fw 190 D–9 variant which first saw service in September 1944. This variant had a larger nose that housed a more powerful Junkers Jumo engine that produced 2,100 hp with the MW-50 boost system. The D-9 was designed for high altitude aerial combat and is a worthy adversary to the P-51D Mustang.
Key Features of the DCS: Fw 190 D-9 Dora:
Unmatched flight physics that allow you to truly feel what it's like to fly this legend.
Highly detailed, six-degrees-of-freedom (6 DOF) cockpit.
Interact with cockpit controls with your mouse.
Accurate Fw 190 D-9 model, squadron markings, and weapons.
Detailed modelling the Fw 190 D-9 instruments, weapons, engine, radios, fuel, and electrical systems.
Battle the P-51D Mustang in single and multiplayer games.
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Digital Combat Simulator World (DCS World) is a free-to-play digital battlefield game, focusing on a military aircraft simulation. It includes a FREE TF-P1D Mustang and a Su-25T attack aircraft. DCS World includes a vast mission area of the Caucasus region that encompasses much of Georgia - the location of the 2008 conflict. Further maps will be available in 2014.
Additionally, DCS World includes:
Powerful mission and campaign editors
Multiplayer
Massive inventory of air, land and sea combat units and weapons
Advanced AI
Fast mission generator
Dynamic weather and seasons
Training missions
Mission replay system
Pilot log book
This all allows the creation of engaging, real-world combat missions in this flashpoint region. DCS is a true "sandbox" simulation that can and will cover multiple time periods covering many types of combat and civilian units. DCS World allows both realistic game play and more relaxed game play to suit the player.
Download DCS World for free from: www.dcs-world.com
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The Fighter Collection, as well as developing software for the entertainment and serious game markets, also operates, rebuilds and maintains Europe's largest collection of airworthy WWII fighters and is based at Duxford Airfield, in the UK. For more information visit our websites: http://www.fighter-collection.com/
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